Here are the TADSummit and TADHack 2025 plans, so you know the big picture.

This post lists the agenda, and links to recorded sessions

Links to Recorded Sessions

Google rejects SMS OTP for QR Codes? I understand the SMS bit, but QR codes?

Kevin Graham, Bohdan Hopanchuck, Noah Rafalko, Johnny, Dennis Kersten (audience), Ahmed Serag (audience). 

From the Trenches, RCS / RBM (RCS Business Messaging)

The presenter is Michael Lamb, President / Co-founder of nativeMsg. Audience includes: Paul Sweeney (potential nativeMSG customer), Mark Hay,  Noah Rafalko, and Johnny Tarone.

Augnet is ALIVE!

Daniel Gill, is now SVP Corporate Strategy at AOT – All in one Telecom! Joined by Kevin Graham, Cavero Quantum, and Johnny.

Simwood’s Potato

Simon Woodhead, Founder and Group CEO Simwood

Voice AI status update

Lyle Pratt, Vida.io Founder & CEO

Rob Pickering, Internet and Real Time Communication Software Expert, Innovator, Advisor, Investor.

Threat Models and Counter Intelligence

Bohdan Hopanchuk, a TADSummit regular, and Jack Sessions, a Security Researcher (Mobile).

Visor.ai, AI partner for contact centers

Gonçalo Consiglieri, Co-founder and CEO, Visor

The Geeky Side of vCon

Dan Petrie, CEO, President of SIPez

The Australian Election. Which messaging technology won? MMS, SMS or RCS?

John Stuckey, Managing Director, MobileDigital

Clerk Chat Part 2, The RCS Demos

Igor Boshoer, Co-founder and CTO, Clerk Chat

ICA, Intelligent Communications Assistant, Introduction

Michael Gough and Robert Winder

RCS Security

Bohdan Hopanchuk, a TADSummit regular

Telecoms Cybersecurity

Dmitry Kurbatov, SecurityGen CTO,, along with Bohdan Hopanchuk, and Aaron Birnbaum (TRaViS) both TADSummit regulars.

Truth in Identity Verification

Stefan Kostic, CEO IPification

vCon TADHack, meet the developers

Thomas Howe, CTO Strolid, The vCon father, + available vCon hackers.

Cavero Quantum Update

Kevin Graham, Growth Strategy Advisor, Cavero Quantum

Meet the Developers of Telnyx TADHack

Michael Bratschi, Telnyx Marketing Lead, AI

James Whedbee, VP Engineering, Telnyx

SKT Hack Debrief

Aaron Birnbaum, vCISO | TRaViS ASM Founder | Cybersecurity Whisperer | CISSP

Bohdan Hopanchuk, Director of Global Partnerships and Procurement at Mobeep

Dmitry Kurbatov, 5G & LTE Cyber-Security | SecurityGen CTO

Jack Sessions. Security Researcher (Mobile) | Speaker | Software Engineer

Cybersecurity Training in the Age of Voice AI

Enrico Faccioli, CEO & Co-founder at vishr.ai // seedata.io

Voice AI Space is born

Thibault [T-Bot] Mardinli, Mapping the Voice AI Space 🖤 3xfailer

Social Engineering

Enrico Faccioli, CEO & Co-founder at vishr.ai // seedata.io

Matt Holland, CTO / CISO & Co-founder vishr.ai // seedata.io

AI in the Middle East

Karim Zaki, CPO \ CTO at Unifonic Inc

Why Erlang Matters More Than Ever in 2025

Viacheslav Katsuba, CEO & Founder at Scaliicon.

vCon Progress Report

Thomas McCarthy-Howe, CTO STROLID, Co-author, vCon (Virtualized Conversations) Working Group, IETF.

Michael Donovan, VP Marketing, Strolid.

Claude Hayn, Founder MindMaking, vCon Store

Audrey Hayn, Product Manager, MindMaking, vCon Store

Interview with Freakyclown (Ethical Hacker). How I Rob Banks: And Other Such Places.

Freakyclown (Ethical Hacker), Best-selling Author, Speaker, CISO, Ethical Hacker, Co-Founder at Cygenta

Vance Shipley Interview and Erlang in Telecom Use Cases

Vance Shipley, CEO & Founder SigScale Global. Developing open source software solutions for CSPs.

Viacheslav Katsuba, CEO & Founder at Scalicon,

Erlang-RED

Gerrit Riessen, Experimentalist FlowHub

Sam Machin, Jambonz, TADHack winner, Node RED geek

Viacheslav Katsuba, CEO & Founder at Scalicon.

Why has the US PSTN pollution remained so bad?

Alex Quilici, CEO YouMail

Alan Quayle, Founder TADSummit and TADHack, independent consultant for 22 years.

Chat with Chris Allen CEO Red5

Chris Allen CEO Red5

Erlang RED Walkthrough

Gerrit Riessen, Experimentalist FlowHub

Sam Machin, Jambonz, TADHack winner, Node RED geek

Viacheslav Katsuba, CEO & Founder at Scalicon.

Vance Shipley, CEO & Founder SigScale Global. Developing open source software solutions for CSPs.

Real World AI-enhanced coding and product development

Thomas McCarthy-Howe, CTO Strolid, vCon Father

Rob Pickering, Internet and Real Time Communication Software Expert,

RJ Burnham, Founder and CEO Consig AI

João Camarate, Entrepreneur, Investor, Startup Nerd, Advisor to Broadvoice

Lyle Pratt, Founder CEO Vida Voice

An introductory dive into Telecoms for software developers

Vance Shipley, CEO & Founder SigScale Global. Developing open source software solutions for CSPs.

Consig Update

RJ Burnham, CEO and co-founder, Consig

Wadaro, update on how in-SIM software is revolutionizing telecoms.

Robert Wakeling, Founder & CEO Wadaro

Upcoming Sessions

Chat about the Current State and Future Outlook of B2C Contact over Voice and Nonvoice Channels with Gerry and Alan

Gerry Christensen, Director of Product Management at 46 Labs

Alan Quayle, Founder TADSummit and TADHack, independent consultant for 22 years.

TBD

What is the RCS Business Messaging (RBM) opportunity? Is it tainted by the ongoing 10DLC issues? How does this impact branded calling?

The PSTN messaging industry sees solid growth in something they call OTT (Over The Top) messaging. Which means all the messaging platforms brands use over the internet, note, mobile phones are on the internet all the time.

Not just WhatsApp, and WeChat, but also Instagram, TikTok, and Snapchat. 10DLC in the US, coupled with the silly exuberance on RBM from some aggregators, means brands are cautious. Also the economy is tough.

Is RCS tainted, yes. Is this permanent, no. But the momentum is with OTT. Latest SMS aggregator numbers show the momentum is with OTT. For kids, the ratio of snapchat to SMS/RCS is >1000:1.

I referred to Labubu dolls in the Unifonic post on TADSummit online Conference, https://blog.tadsummit.com/2025/08/06/ai-in-the-middle-east/. The Unifonic post highlighted for me the emerging importance of messaging platforms like Tiktok, Instagram, and Snapchat.

This will be a North American focused discussion, bringing in the learnings from Unifonic and exploring the relevance of branded calling.

Spec-Driven Development with Jason Goecke

Jason Goecke, Managing Partner, Cultiv8 Ventures LLC

Wednesday 19th of November, noon ET.

AI Without Specifications = Expensive, Fast Chaos.

The reality: Vague Idea → AI Interprets → Wrong Code Generated Fast → “That’s not what I meant” → More AI → More Wrong Code → Faster Failure Cycles → Expensive Chaos. AI doesn’t fix unclear requirements. It amplifies them at 10x speed.

What Is Spec-Driven Development? A development method where executable specifications—not verbal requirements or user stories—serve as the single source of truth defining WHAT to build, WHY to build it, and HOW to prove it’s correct.

SDD creates the precision foundation that enables AI to deliver production-ready code systematically, transforming development from an unpredictable craft into a scalable engineering discipline.

It MUST be:

• Performance requirements (measurable)
• Security requirements (testable)
• Reliability requirements (verifiable)
• Compliance requirements (auditable)

GitHub Spec-Kit is the framework that makes Spec-Driven Development practical and scalable. Built by GitHub Engineering for GitHub.com’s 200M+ users, it’s the foundation that transforms SDD from theory into competitive reality. This isn’t experimental technology—it’s production-proven infrastructure available to your organization today.

Alerts Bar

Dima Ashkinazi, co-founder Alerts Bar

Mike Khytko, co-founder Alerts Bar

Aidan Raney, co-founder Alerts Bar

Tuesday 25th of November, 10AM ET.

Deep darknet monitoring for infostealers know your compromised devices and credentials of your employees and customers

Voice AI agents – the next Klondike for CSPs?

Andriy Zhylenko, CEO PortaOne

Wednesday 26th of November, 10AM ET.

How CSPs can use AI agents can bring back the profits and reduce churn; available integration options to deliver good UX; how to add voice AI agents to “old but not obsolete” VoIP system.

Original Gangster in Voice AI, Karel Bourgois, since 2009

Karel Bourgois, Founder CEO Voxist

Wednesday 3rd of December, 10AM ET.

I’ve known Karel since 2009, we met at eComm in San Francisco (surprisingly the event’s website sort of remains here, http://ecommconf.com/). He was a graduating MBA student from NYU Stern, in our discussion voice agents were mentioned even back then.

After graduation he joined Alcatel Mobile Phones, then moved to Orange Libon. During his time at Libon the idea about how voicemail could become a powerful assistant became a driving force in the creation of Voxist. And we’ve tracked his journey into voice AI, before voice AI was a thing. See videos below to track Karel’s aging 🙂

From 2014 here is Karel talking about Orange Libon.

Then in 2016 Karel described the first 6 months on Voxist.

Then in 2022 we saw the great leap forward in voice AI.

Karel Bourgois has been part of TADSummit and TADHack since the beginning. He was the first of us to point out the transformer model had changed the rules in AI. Here is his previous TADSummit podcast.

One thing Karel said is “Flexibility is key when you’re working in AI.” And he’s been working with AI longer than most. Taking advantage of the weaknesses in French ASR of the big companies he has built success mining voice data in verticals such as medical imaging. He’s thrived, but not yet made bank.

We’ll explore critical questions facing the industry such as:

• How can OpenAI survive? 
• What will happen to ElevenLabs and the others when the easy money runs out?
• Will Google, Microsoft, or Apple clean up the remaining voice AI companies?

RCS has launched, it’s time to fully bake the RCS for Business recipe!

Wednesday 10th of December, 10AM ET.

Michael Lamb, President / Co-founder of nativeMsg.

Michael is back to show us how nativeMsg are moving the market from experimentation towards wholesale deployment.

I know, this is a repeating theme in the RCS story, there’s always something, queue Dean Bubley sniggering in the corner mumbling zombie. Google did a big RCS for Business marketing campaign to the industry, with some big name brands. It reminded me of the work Apifonica did one decade ago with Fan Engagement solutions using SMS / voice for European football clubs.

Brands remain frustrated by the lack of integrated experiences with RCS for Business like they experience with WhatsApp / TikTok (across community, advertising, store, and bots). Meta has limited bots on WhatsApp to only Meta AI, their customers’ data will remain their data, though brands can share in the insights. That’s been the case with Facebook, and brands accept that.

The RCS barriers are coming down. However, the RCS ecosystem is complex; TikTok and WhatsApp are ‘simple’ by comparison. The RCS for Business recipe is not fully baked; to claim there are no growing pains is false. The unique differences between Apple and Android only surface when testing to fully understand how each will deliver the RCS for Business Experience, OS version numbers matter. It’s still a bit runny in the middle. A partner who understands and has experience sending RCS is critical to crafting experiences that deliver results across the different platforms. Success now hinges on the details.

nativeMsg is focused on helping brands understand what’s happening, how to ensure RCS works for their campaigns. And let’s not forget that good old SMS experience works, even though it may be delivered over the RCS channel. Take Branded Calling, so much effort on vetting, permissions, graphics, etc, when an SMS just works, “Alan, this Bob from XYZ Blinds, your order is ready, we’ll call you tomorrow to arrange an installation appointment, or you can give us a call now.”

And to every carrier vested in RCS, start using it with your customers!

End of Year Special with Matthew Smith

Sometime in December.