Podcast 85: TADSummit Innovators, Steve Lasker, DataTrails

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I met Steve through Thomas Howe. Steve is the Director Ecosystem for DataTrails, DataTrails provides next-generation transparency technology for any data supply chain. Put simply, AI without transparent audit trails can’t be trusted. Now that’s something we’ve heard from Thomas a few times 😉

Steve is a contributor to SCITT (Supply Chain Integrity, Transparency and Trust), an IETF standard. He’ll be presenting at TADSummit in October. I show the sessions description below. There’s an important link between vCon and SCITT in ensuring the integrity of vCon as it passes through organizations and secondary processing such as speech to text, or used in training of an LLM.

SCITT supports the ongoing verification of goods and services where the authenticity of entities, evidence, policy, and artifacts can be assured and the actions of entities can be guaranteed to be authorized, non-repudiable, immutable, and auditable. Say I receive a vCon from a partner, I’ll need to check on the status from the partner, say every 24 hours. The vCon could have been redacted or updated as there was a transcription error, hence I update the vCon after checking its status.

Steve brings lots of experiences to his current role. He was solving problems for Azure in securing workflows for Azure users and Azure itself. On the SCITT site they have a SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) use case.

You’ll see there are many applications of SCITT beyond vCon in telecoms. It could be applied to SMS, or really any message / communications. Who created it? Can I trust its authenticity? For example, are the people who they say they are? Was AI used? As always a picture helps, see below on the core of SCITT.

The focus of SCITT is software supply chain, even through it could also be applied to hardware as well, as discussed in the video. I think in telecoms / communications SCITT enables a level of trust and traceability we’ve lacked so far.

Steve’s TADSummit Session.

SCITT and vCon AI governance for conversations, at scale
Steve Lasker, Director of Ecosystem DataTrails

  • An introduction to Supply Chain Integrity, Transparency and Trust (SCITT), an IETF standard.
  • Why does managing the compliance of goods and services across end-to-end supply chains matter? For example, SCITT could be the end of deep fakes!
  • SCITT supports the verification of goods and services where the authenticity of entities, evidence, policy, and artifacts can be assured.
  • Combining SCITT and vCon deliver AI governance for conversations, at scale. As vCons move through the lifecycle, SCITT builds a transparent ledger, enabling regulators and auditors to keep consumers safe. Consent is built into the vCon/SCITT combo.
  • Some SCITT use cases to help you understand the relevance of SCITT and why the combo with vCon is essential for business use cases.

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